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		<title>By: Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 04:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew i have the same machine and the belt slipped off. 
How did you get it back on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew i have the same machine and the belt slipped off.<br />
How did you get it back on?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a Nordic Trac &quot;commercial&quot; elliptical. Very early on, the belt slipped off. Then the bolt connecting the left arm to the pedal sheared off. After a tricky removal and replacement of the failed bolt with a new bolt, the same bolt sheared right off a few months later. The machine did not get heavy use. Icon had the nerve to charge for the replacement bolt (I bought several bolts knowing this was likely to happen again). I could not find the bolt anywhere else even after checking a specialty nut and bolt distributor. I enjoy the machine when it  works, much the same as Lada and Yugo owners enjoy riding around in their precision engineered machines.

Ps to those many many owners who had sheared bolts, you can drill a pilot hole with a cobalt drill bit, the use a left hand drill bit (comes in a set for removing broken bolts) to extract the broken piece. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a Nordic Trac &#8220;commercial&#8221; elliptical. Very early on, the belt slipped off. Then the bolt connecting the left arm to the pedal sheared off. After a tricky removal and replacement of the failed bolt with a new bolt, the same bolt sheared right off a few months later. The machine did not get heavy use. Icon had the nerve to charge for the replacement bolt (I bought several bolts knowing this was likely to happen again). I could not find the bolt anywhere else even after checking a specialty nut and bolt distributor. I enjoy the machine when it  works, much the same as Lada and Yugo owners enjoy riding around in their precision engineered machines.</p>
<p>Ps to those many many owners who had sheared bolts, you can drill a pilot hole with a cobalt drill bit, the use a left hand drill bit (comes in a set for removing broken bolts) to extract the broken piece. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: NWA Consumer Review</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>NWA Consumer Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad ... my experience with Icon Fitness (Nordic Track, ProForm and other brand names) was very similar to yours. In 2009 the exact same machine was sold as the CrossWalk via ProForm (just a different label on the side of the machine). In the 1st year my machine was not working at all about 50% of the time and there was &quot;something wrong&quot; with it throughout the 1st year. 

The repair system is as you described ... call about the problem, they diagnose over the phone, they send a part, repairman arrives and then maybe he can fix the machine or maybe he can&#039;t. So then maybe he must order more parts which can take additional weeks of waiting and rescheduling. This was repeated time after time for many different problems.

I had a great repairman (they are not IconFitness employees but independant in your area) but he could not understand Icon&#039;s system. We finally agreed they would never replace my machine but just keep sending parts like they were doing (often these didn&#039;t fix the problem so I accumulated a small inventory of replacement parts) even if it didn&#039;t fix the problem while the machine was in warranty but just slow the process down as much as possible to minimize losses. Evidently, sending out a new replacement machine is such a big expense to them that they would rather keep sending parts even if it doesn&#039;t fix the problem.

I work from home so I had time to make the calls to their customer service center ... some there were poor and some were good ... just like at any customer service center ... but the waiting times were often incredible to speak to someone ... sometimes 45 minutes to an hour. Fortunately, I had a speaker phone and could work at my computer while on hold.

2 issues were never fixed ... I couldn&#039;t move the stride control knobs without moving the machine to get my full weight into it since they were almost impossible to move in and out ... evidently they were not milled properly. They replaced all parts related to this issue but to no avail. Also, there was a horrible clanking sound for most of the year ... I mean really loud. They replaced all relavant parts ... twice ... with no impact.

There were many other problems but these were repaired.

To be fair in these comments, I must report that after a year I was given the choice of a full refund (I also had purchased the longest warranty available) of purchase price and warranty ... but I spent many hours every month calling, checking on parts, setting repair visits, etc. Of course I took the refund.

Additionally to be fair, I did locate another owner who had as bad as an experience as I had and he said his local technician said that in about 200 service calls on Icon products in their region only about 4 were lemons like mine (and his).

I have now down enough research from forums and blogs to know that all ellipticals can have problems and I have read of companies that would not provide a refund like I&#039;ve received. I was also allowed to keep the old machine even though it was termed &quot;non-repairable&quot; but would have to disasemble it to remove it from the room it is in (after the machine is put together it is wider than most doorways).

My only advice is don&#039;t rush into a purchase and don&#039;t believe the testimonials on any IconFitness web site ... look for independant sites and understand that Icon has their own staff also making comments on these independant sites too. Good Luck to All.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad &#8230; my experience with Icon Fitness (Nordic Track, ProForm and other brand names) was very similar to yours. In 2009 the exact same machine was sold as the CrossWalk via ProForm (just a different label on the side of the machine). In the 1st year my machine was not working at all about 50% of the time and there was &#8220;something wrong&#8221; with it throughout the 1st year. </p>
<p>The repair system is as you described &#8230; call about the problem, they diagnose over the phone, they send a part, repairman arrives and then maybe he can fix the machine or maybe he can&#8217;t. So then maybe he must order more parts which can take additional weeks of waiting and rescheduling. This was repeated time after time for many different problems.</p>
<p>I had a great repairman (they are not IconFitness employees but independant in your area) but he could not understand Icon&#8217;s system. We finally agreed they would never replace my machine but just keep sending parts like they were doing (often these didn&#8217;t fix the problem so I accumulated a small inventory of replacement parts) even if it didn&#8217;t fix the problem while the machine was in warranty but just slow the process down as much as possible to minimize losses. Evidently, sending out a new replacement machine is such a big expense to them that they would rather keep sending parts even if it doesn&#8217;t fix the problem.</p>
<p>I work from home so I had time to make the calls to their customer service center &#8230; some there were poor and some were good &#8230; just like at any customer service center &#8230; but the waiting times were often incredible to speak to someone &#8230; sometimes 45 minutes to an hour. Fortunately, I had a speaker phone and could work at my computer while on hold.</p>
<p>2 issues were never fixed &#8230; I couldn&#8217;t move the stride control knobs without moving the machine to get my full weight into it since they were almost impossible to move in and out &#8230; evidently they were not milled properly. They replaced all parts related to this issue but to no avail. Also, there was a horrible clanking sound for most of the year &#8230; I mean really loud. They replaced all relavant parts &#8230; twice &#8230; with no impact.</p>
<p>There were many other problems but these were repaired.</p>
<p>To be fair in these comments, I must report that after a year I was given the choice of a full refund (I also had purchased the longest warranty available) of purchase price and warranty &#8230; but I spent many hours every month calling, checking on parts, setting repair visits, etc. Of course I took the refund.</p>
<p>Additionally to be fair, I did locate another owner who had as bad as an experience as I had and he said his local technician said that in about 200 service calls on Icon products in their region only about 4 were lemons like mine (and his).</p>
<p>I have now down enough research from forums and blogs to know that all ellipticals can have problems and I have read of companies that would not provide a refund like I&#8217;ve received. I was also allowed to keep the old machine even though it was termed &#8220;non-repairable&#8221; but would have to disasemble it to remove it from the room it is in (after the machine is put together it is wider than most doorways).</p>
<p>My only advice is don&#8217;t rush into a purchase and don&#8217;t believe the testimonials on any IconFitness web site &#8230; look for independant sites and understand that Icon has their own staff also making comments on these independant sites too. Good Luck to All.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 03:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Nor Dick Track elliptical Elite 1300. At about a year old an idler bearing and wheel went out on it. About $50 later, some new plastic parts and my own labor, we were up and running. Now a couple years later at 5:00am in the morning I hear a scream from down stairs. Running down stairs to see what happened to my wife I find her on the floor, she is ok but the elliptical is not. I find the left side of the wheel had fallen off of the elliptical. My wife was ok but could have been severely hurt, she goes pretty fast on it and for it to break and come apart like it did we were very lucky she wasn’t hurt. I found that a ¾ inch steel shaft had snapped in two. The inside of the shaft looks like pot metal not steel. The whole situation makes me mad.  A major part like this “steel” shaft should not break, even if it had 100 years of use.  It is just poor quality. The lack of quality and safety issue, I can’t afford to ever buy another Nordic Track product!! Looks like $150 from Nordic. I will probably go to a machine shop and have a real shaft made. BUT what will I do with the shaft in 5 years when the rest of the machine (junk) has fallen apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Nor Dick Track elliptical Elite 1300. At about a year old an idler bearing and wheel went out on it. About $50 later, some new plastic parts and my own labor, we were up and running. Now a couple years later at 5:00am in the morning I hear a scream from down stairs. Running down stairs to see what happened to my wife I find her on the floor, she is ok but the elliptical is not. I find the left side of the wheel had fallen off of the elliptical. My wife was ok but could have been severely hurt, she goes pretty fast on it and for it to break and come apart like it did we were very lucky she wasn’t hurt. I found that a ¾ inch steel shaft had snapped in two. The inside of the shaft looks like pot metal not steel. The whole situation makes me mad.  A major part like this “steel” shaft should not break, even if it had 100 years of use.  It is just poor quality. The lack of quality and safety issue, I can’t afford to ever buy another Nordic Track product!! Looks like $150 from Nordic. I will probably go to a machine shop and have a real shaft made. BUT what will I do with the shaft in 5 years when the rest of the machine (junk) has fallen apart.</p>
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		<title>By: zak</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everybody for taking the time to comment on this worthless junk.It saved me I was planning to go for one off them I wont now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everybody for taking the time to comment on this worthless junk.It saved me I was planning to go for one off them I wont now</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Nordic Track User</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Nordic Track User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 02:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a NordicTrack eliptical macine about a month ago and have never used it. The console they sent me does not work. I called their help line and although the peoson on the phone was polite and sympathetic, all she could do was send me a new console. That one did not work either. I called back and was sent a THIRD console. Still no luck now I have this giant piece of garbage in my living room and I&#039;m out almost 1000 bucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a NordicTrack eliptical macine about a month ago and have never used it. The console they sent me does not work. I called their help line and although the peoson on the phone was polite and sympathetic, all she could do was send me a new console. That one did not work either. I called back and was sent a THIRD console. Still no luck now I have this giant piece of garbage in my living room and I&#8217;m out almost 1000 bucks!</p>
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		<title>By: darlene</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which model did u buy???</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with this model has been poor as well.  After a little over one year, the display is not working.  The backlight is ok but not the rest of the display.  I spoke w/ Icon and they were quite rude.  I, too, will not buy Nordic Track or Icon products in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with this model has been poor as well.  After a little over one year, the display is not working.  The backlight is ok but not the rest of the display.  I spoke w/ Icon and they were quite rude.  I, too, will not buy Nordic Track or Icon products in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 13:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had my Nordic Track Elliptical for almost 3 years now and LOVE IT!  I use it almost everyday for 30 - 90 minutes each day.  I have never had the problems any of the other people have had.  Maybe it was the model they bought.  Mine has been fantastic, and I would recommend it to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had my Nordic Track Elliptical for almost 3 years now and LOVE IT!  I use it almost everyday for 30 &#8211; 90 minutes each day.  I have never had the problems any of the other people have had.  Maybe it was the model they bought.  Mine has been fantastic, and I would recommend it to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 03:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased a NordicTrack ASR 1000 in Dec 2008.  After the first month or so, it was obvious that the left arm connected to the wheel was beginning to rub on the housing.  After removal of the housing it was obvious that the bolt holding the arm to the shaft was never properly tightened. (This part was assembled by the factory.)  Now after 15 months or so, the wheel under the right foot pad is disintegrating.  I ordered a new one (about $65 for what should be about a $12 part.)  The backlight of the display failed about 1 year after the purchase.
Conclusion:  Don&#039;t buy this piece of junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a NordicTrack ASR 1000 in Dec 2008.  After the first month or so, it was obvious that the left arm connected to the wheel was beginning to rub on the housing.  After removal of the housing it was obvious that the bolt holding the arm to the shaft was never properly tightened. (This part was assembled by the factory.)  Now after 15 months or so, the wheel under the right foot pad is disintegrating.  I ordered a new one (about $65 for what should be about a $12 part.)  The backlight of the display failed about 1 year after the purchase.<br />
Conclusion:  Don&#8217;t buy this piece of junk.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had experience with two or three different Nordic Track models. I&#039;ve never felt comfortable with the motion on a nordic track. I have a friend who has one and loves it for its stable rear-wheel driven drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had experience with two or three different Nordic Track models. I&#8217;ve never felt comfortable with the motion on a nordic track. I have a friend who has one and loves it for its stable rear-wheel driven drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I whish I had read this before we bought it. If I go through Utah again (which I do not enjoy, anyway), I will go by and tell them I do not like their product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whish I had read this before we bought it. If I go through Utah again (which I do not enjoy, anyway), I will go by and tell them I do not like their product.</p>
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		<title>By: Datsun</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Datsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that Icon Health and Fitness manufactures of Nordic Track, Pro Form, etc are the largest home fitness manufacturer in the world and control 80% of the home fitness sales in the US.  With that said thre are a lot of machines out there and there are bound to be some warranty/service issue.  I heard they only have like 1-2% of machines have warranty issues.

I have worked twice for them going through college, once in plastics and in assembly/production and they always stress the importance of quality.  I remember stopping production on our line for a whole week doing reworks because a machine was missing a small decal, then a cosmetic screw another time.

I&#039;m sorry some people have had bigger issues, but I&#039;ve had several pieces from treadmills, weights, elliptcals, clothing and have never had a single problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that Icon Health and Fitness manufactures of Nordic Track, Pro Form, etc are the largest home fitness manufacturer in the world and control 80% of the home fitness sales in the US.  With that said thre are a lot of machines out there and there are bound to be some warranty/service issue.  I heard they only have like 1-2% of machines have warranty issues.</p>
<p>I have worked twice for them going through college, once in plastics and in assembly/production and they always stress the importance of quality.  I remember stopping production on our line for a whole week doing reworks because a machine was missing a small decal, then a cosmetic screw another time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry some people have had bigger issues, but I&#8217;ve had several pieces from treadmills, weights, elliptcals, clothing and have never had a single problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry about your experience. We bought a NordicTrack eliptical a year and a half ago and it has had no problems. I use it on a daily basis and the only maintenance it has needed is a little bit of the grease they provided for the discs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry about your experience. We bought a NordicTrack eliptical a year and a half ago and it has had no problems. I use it on a daily basis and the only maintenance it has needed is a little bit of the grease they provided for the discs.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://fitnessandequipments.com/nordic-track/elliptical-trainers/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had our elliptical trainer for just over one year, with minimal usage. Half the electronic board has already stopped working, even though it has been well-cared for and is on a surge protector.  The ramp, resistance, I-fit, Games, Display mode, all stopped working, even though it will still give you the time of your workout and the pulse detectors still work.  It would cost us 350.00 to replace the defective electronics. I will never buy another Nordic Track. The lack of quality is just disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had our elliptical trainer for just over one year, with minimal usage. Half the electronic board has already stopped working, even though it has been well-cared for and is on a surge protector.  The ramp, resistance, I-fit, Games, Display mode, all stopped working, even though it will still give you the time of your workout and the pulse detectors still work.  It would cost us 350.00 to replace the defective electronics. I will never buy another Nordic Track. The lack of quality is just disgusting.</p>
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